So even though they have campus pastors, no one was felt to equal BC. Read broadly from people who have some form of biblical training. Youre going to find many branches of the faith represented here which adds to the richness of what takes place here. Sordid details. God is and will continue to deal with Bob. They were given based on what you pledged/gave. Do u not see that his co-sinners are being judged by many of you as throwing themselves at him and seductresses? Sharon Leone (Diane Farr) is Vince's wife and the Chief of Division 1501 on the CBS original drama, Fire Country. And if Bob is reading this he now knows who I am. I love him as my true brother in the Lord and because his weakness overtook him will not change that. I dont like that at all. Let him who is without sin cast the first stone. All materials are posted on the site strictly for informational and educational purposes! Being estranged from God and condemned by our sinfulness, our salvation is wholly dependent upon the work of Gods free grace. Some of the biggest anti-Semites have been Jewish! I can just throw out stuff also. I wonder what happened to the 61 million raised. For me involves simply the interest in private conversation with people outside my circle. Calvinism and Dominion ism are completely different as well. I still love pastor Bob. No way around the fallout. So youre saying youve never viewed porn in all the time youve been married? Who is Kassanndra Cantrell? Bob got caught with the constables 17 yr old daughter and he had paid for the abortion?? Im not going to print anything that I cant verify, but I have the same fears you do. This is not good, and this is what can happen. It just shows you cant answer me, so you put up a man who has been dead over 400 yrs and argue with him. Notice how all Christians are all supposed to get along with one another, kumbayah, and yet when a (secondary?) And even if complaints arose, Smith's answer was often to give wayward preachers second and third chances. Than how can the others be? Its as though the biblical gospel is not interesting or compelling enough; its as though the biblical gospel does not comport with increasingly American ideas of libertarianism, guns, stand your ground, etc. Hate the sin; love the sinner. We have to consider this each time we place anyone near to or above God. Given the opportunity of beautiful young women throwing themselves at at men, 99.9 percent of men would fall. I would like to see some evidence for your claims. But the case soon stalled. Many evangelicals get saved and still do the same sins as before or trade them in for worse sins. I cant believe some of the comments Ive read here and on CCAbuse. The church was more concerned with non-believers.. come as you are to meet Jesus than protecting their own sheep. I still attend CCFL because I believe that I can help some of the younger members. Please understand I dont mean that condescendingly, it just is fact. According to an August 2015 report provided to The Christian Post by the Coral Springs Police Department, a mother living in Southern California reported that her then 17-year-old daughtercame forward, saying she had been sexually abused by Coy for years. Money creates a disconnect. You just have to be careful when looking for a church some of these churches teach that Calvinism garbage, like God had chosen some to go to hell and theres no such thing as free will for the nonbeliever, and the limited atonement nonsense that Jesus only died for the elect and not for the whole world, others teach replacement theology that God is through with the nation of Israel and we the church have replaced them and there are no more promises for Israel, but instead they apply to the church. Lots of questions now. You must be great at bringing people the Good News. Some knew that the building that was built for the H.S. Please reveal your sources, or at least generically their affiliation to Calvary Chapelor leave the story alone and let the church handle it in house.thank you, AND GOD BLESS YOU!! Those who understood their own propensity, weakness and past personal sins and failures might be better off placing a hand over their mouths and silently praying for mercy to be extended to this man and his family. Jesus loves him and his family very much. Dusty you make an excellent point. Hugh, Yeah, I agree completely with Neo, You really, really need a hug. They had plenty of time to tell their people and they already had prepared for their family meeting. That is a bummer about Chet. this Calvinist preterist teaching is a rotting festering leaven in the body of Christ today!, Wow Ill let my reformed friends know that theyre not really saved because Hugh said so. Their fellowship there- and their clichs-their high class restaurant-a place to impress non-believers so they can get saved there and their position of importance was more important than standing up for the truth. All Rights Reserved. It appears I missed the Mensa meeting on this thread ;o). But, if he is restored he will be like Jacob who limped for the rest of his life after he finally won Gods blessing over his life. Also, there was the whole matter of Sharon not wanting to be revived in the event that something goes wrong, which enabled her to have more control over the outcome than it would have been possible otherwise. His wife is Diane Coy (m. 1984, div. I would say this before you do anything , cry out to the Lord on your own and I mean CRY OUT!! I have respected his request. Thats over a half million, not including his church salary, book royalties and possible speaking fees. When it comes to judging their own sinprivate meeting and dont judge!. The next level of givers got to have a dinner with them with more people, the next level got a buffet dinner> The next got a lunch buffet and then some got nothing. My apologies to all people who are 300 pounds or over it wasnt my intention to insult you or hurt your feelings and my apologies to MLD in reading your post, they seemed very callous and cruel without regard for the scripture that says that we need to consider ourselves lest we also be tempted, so this caricature came to my mind but again my apologies and I want to ask the moderator to take down my previous post since Im unable to do that, Thank you. I came to this blog long ago aghast that things negative were being said about CC. He could preach a Jesus message with a straight face on Sundayhaving done so much evil the Saturday before. Lets wait and see how many women he defiled. BE TRUTHFUL AND HONEST, OR YOULL NEVER EXPERIENCE TRUE HEALING! Some have suggested there are others on CCs staff who are guilty of similar secret sins. I hope you come back, so many love you and God loves you more! Jimmy Baker ended up serving five years in jail of his 45 year sentence. I did. So do we go to punishment or restoration? If that board doesnt see evidence of Bob relinquishing his power over this injured and vulnerable group of people in Ft Lauderdale and beyond, then they will have no choice but to release enough of the details to protect the Body from a fallen pastor who has no idea how dangerous he is to a people he claims to have loved. Let the people of God rally to those who are hurting and those who have been sinned against. Bode cared more about saving his mother than he did about himself. For many people, restoration mistakenly means the duration before the erring pastor is behind the pulpit again. The best article Ive read on the subject thus far! Andy, the whole passage is figurative or symbolic. This is a Christian blog? Your blessed sermons brought so many to the Lord. That would include the pornography stars. As churchgoers held their hands up in ecstasy, Sauder read from Matthew and promised that Jesus was ready to heal. @MartinLuthersdisciple I have no sympathy for the adulterer. So here is one for you. (Judge Bailey didn't respond to messages from New Times to comment on this story.). Whats George Zimmerman up to these days? Bob asked me to remove that message, but, I completely agree. I have had pets with more emotional and spiritual maturity than you. Some of these churches/groups that are so antithetical to anything that could possibly be considered ecumenical may in fact be unable to discern wheat from chaff. But Daddy held me down and the truck went over me, she said. 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May The Lord continue to bless you in your growth as you discover your gifts and calling and use them for the furtherance of his kingdom, my prayers are with you and CCFL, that God would be in complete and total control as he ordains those he has called to lead in this difficult hour, for we know that God is on the throne and he never fails! And somewhere along the line, Coy slipped right back into his old life. Tell me why you need to be the first w news rather than respecting the church body and unity of faith and respecting that as a congregation, we need to be together to receive our family update. All folks pretty much have a good sense of right and wrong whether or not they are saved by an evangelical gospel construct. note the opening line Amillennialism is the mainstream Christian end-times theology. His programs were included on Trinity Broadcasting Network, a network that hosts several televangelists. An open church service on Sunday at 4 p.m. included worship, reading of a letter from Coy and the reading of a statement from board, followed by honest sharing of a reminder that Jesus is leading and that the church will move forward together. I hate replacement theology. At first we were given a drawing of a new sanctuary. I suspect that the laughs made him realize it worked..got more people in and maybe it became like a treadmill that you can never get off of. That shows you how much they initially pledged. Again I presume your a single woman. Look at any end times prophecy books on the shelf today all written by dispies. And if not, then the best thing is to keep your lying mouth shut! They too should hear, hey, we all sin, we all slip up. Any ideas? Bob Coy did not address the congregation on Sunday. By my count, only 7 including myself have listed your names. I dont think Ive ever seen this happen quite so quickly. Let this be a sign to youif your backside rebels you must repent. Hugh, With MLD leading the way with his self righteous smug attitude!. A jury awarded the family $360,000 but ruled Calvary wasn't culpable. I have always been amazed I wouldnt know how to tell a dirty joke or swear in front of a strange woman. Lorenzo, My lying mouth? In light of that, the apparent glee/self righteousness voiced by some above/previously sickens me. Hugh. Lets you and I join in prayer along with all the others that are doing the same thing for Pastor Bob and pray that The Lord will deliver him from this horrible thing. But in 1981, his life changed forever thanks to an epic holiday hangover and his brother Jim, who'd already found religion. Even the disciples were surprised by what happened. 7 The cow and the bear shall graze; their young shall lie down together; and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. Michael continues to be a blogger fail, spreading innacurate information, in hopes of being a journalist/blogger while these comments help sell him ads and he continues to beg for money via paypal on here. The chapel's grounds are more expansive than those of many colleges and brim with high-end features: an Astroturf soccer field, a huge playroom stuffed with kid-size toy airplanes and plush animals, even a fine-dining restaurant where sermons and musical performances are live-streamed as guests feast on cooked-to-order steaks. I dont have time to comment much, but let me clear up a couple of things. Punishment is for both, the guilty person, and for all the onlookers to witness the aftermath of disobedience. MLD, satan is bound? Cant seem to wonder if Pastor Clay knew something and that is why he resigned the end of last year. He and his wife actually had real world experience risking their necks for the sake of the gospel and giving the selves for themselves for the least of the lost in war torn Liberia in the late 90s. Coy is exposed for his moral situation. Closet. He's accused of molesting at least ten children aged 13 to 16 over several years, victimizing members of the youth group he led after taking them back to his apartment. He resigned he was not fired! It would be good to listen to her insight. And aside from that she was not making millions telling others not to do like wise. Moe #470, where was the church leadership teaching the women to dress modestly for church? it never happened. Dusty, Youre too kind. In fact I have never seen a look of disgust to that degree on kids faces at any graduation ceremony. I hope Joe Focht can get her story and reconsider the Moses Model and other vision casters in his region. That is so true. Were still worshiping the same old gods. "If you're foolish enough to go through with this story it would hurt a lot of people," he added, refusing to provide more details about the scandal. so it takes two to tango? I felt the call to stand up for righteousness and expose this pastor after I learned of the many women who suffered the same thing before me and had many people come against me for that, too, which really hurt. Look in Daniel 1 v 20. 8:00AM. Pastor Robert Coy, the former Las Vegas casino entertainment director turned religious leader for one of Florida's biggest megachurches, has been accused of molesting a 4-year-old girl. I have looked this for years, and I think there are several groups that are maintaining biblical integrity and calling. I totally agree anon. Name one of these men you refer to, the men Im asking on this thread cant and wont answer the question, if theyve ever viewed pornography or thought of someone else while theyre with their wives, that should tell you something, and the women Ive been with enjoyed our intimacy as much as I did, we enriched each other and learned from each other and brought each other boundless pleasure, so I dont know what youre talking about, discarded women and wrecked lives? I now wonder how long leadership has been aware of issue. Amen to #639, especially your last paragraph, Ps40. A rich man has freedom to embrace the world. There have been a large number of new posters (many anonymous) who arrived in the first couple days of the news. God forbid he get a real job like the rest of us. Calvinism is not an eschatology though Calvinists tend to be almost anything other than pretrib premillennialists. What would Jesus do? Bob Coy may not have been a good pastor but he was a great Bible teacher (amalekites, perizzites, canaanites OH MY!) Many comments by those who attend CCFL. Read some of the reporting from the time. All this stuff about Love Out Loud was a big con.. How many people did Coy or Calvary go after that left the church.Coy never did he didn;t care. ", Like Smith, though, Coy used his relaxed persona to sell a deeply conservative brand of Christianity. She confirmed the story in stomach-churning detail. From that inner circle of men trying to navigate this atrocityI really doubt they want everyone they have shared Christ with for years to hear the details about their beloved pastor???? Adultery is a common thread throughout the 66 books. Miracles are still happening on earth. Sure would make the shame easier to bear. Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone. I have absolutely no sympathy for the adulterer. Please dont forget them in your prayers that God will put godly counselors in their paths to help them with their pain, their fear, and more than likely their doubt in their own faith. 18 But what does it matter? The next year, he raised an insane $103 million in donations the most by a single megachurch to date. I have. There was a group of loyal congregants there, even when they moved out of the shopping center and into a school to save money when all the while there were huge back rents needing to be paid. Most of us did that in the earliest days of the blog. As his star rose and his congregation grew into the tens of thousands, the Sun Sentinel solicited weekly faith columns written by Coy. Daniel uses the 7s in its proper biblical sense to mean a completeness of time this is not a specific period of time. No bitterness here. Newnham also wrote that Coy was taken off the board membership page for the Calvary Chapel Association, a ministry started by the late pastor Chuck Smith. Read some of the reports from that nightits all over the place in reputable sources. Coy isnt not saved for his moral failure, hes simply human with a dual nature that can produce both good and bad fruit from the same tree.just as atheist friends of mine and Mormon friends of mine produce both good fruit (sometimes more than evangelicals) and bad fruit from the same tree. 1 JOHN 1:8 If we claim to be without sin,we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. It boggles the mind. Serious people interpret the Bible and serious people disagree. The fig tree was a representation of the leadership in Jerusalem and what did Jesus say to it when it had no fruit? People were asked to make pledges. Lets not use this thread for our personal theological musings, please. They had to buy mens magazines to see those images. If I was a Calvinist I would still punch you in the blog-mouth with your silliness. the guilty parties. My family loves Pastor Bob and his leadership and every week he led hundreds to our Savior. I hear you, but keep it PG. One of the many reasons I left. I know this to be true because you have stated many times that you read only the Bible. Lets look 20:1 Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit do angels have hands? Silence. I understand your hearts pain and I presume you are a single young woman so the thought of a man or woman in the ministry falling is very disheartening to say the least. This will be my last ever participation in one of these exchanges. Church, youve accomplished nothing through this. I hope wiser minds prevail. I knew you could. The founder's son-in-law, Brian Brodersen, left the network of Calvary churches and started his own organization with many of the chapels, including Coy's old church in Fort Lauderdale. . They would rather see a family trashed than do what is right by the Lord. OR THOUGHT OF SOMEONE ELSE WHILE YOU WERE BEING INTIMATE WITH YOUR WIFE??? Not a witch hunt at all. may God give wisdom, grace, and comfort to all those affected. Our loyalty is to Jesus Christ. And in the greater Ft. Lauderdale area, Ive no doubt there are many good churches. I wish I could be more positive, but we are living in the last days when there will be a great falling away from the faith, which the Lord has prepared us to expect before He returns. Most of us ended up here due to similar circumstances, i.e. The difference between fired and resigned in corporate America is usually a matter of semantics and legality, not repentance. Michael, you agree with 0% of the things that come out of my mouth, so calling me ludicrous is only adding to the list of pejoratives Ive accumulated from you . Preparations for Sharons operation had begun inFire Country episode 15. We still sin, we still are capable of the same evils as prior to being saved and thats why accountability measures in the churches and checks and balances to power in both religion and politics is vitally necessary. Restoration is step three. This is bad for the pastor, bad for the general congregation. Or was it because he was caught? The Bible says, let he who is without sin cast the first stone! What was the result of your victimization? Yes I do. Several people who witnessed the accident immediately ran to assist the victims. Andy, OK, you go with that but to hold your position you have to call Peter a liar in Acts 2. The Holy Spirit is still at work. MLD, nothing in your 708 says that the 1000 years of Revelation, are figurative. Brother, you need a hug. Was a 2nd announcement made today at services? Way to take it out pf context monk. Founded in 1985 by Bob Coy and his wife Diane, it is affiliated with the Calvary Chapel movement. Brian is extensively involved in missions and church planting around the world. He never hid who he was," says Tina Rivera-John, who began attending Calvary in the mid-'90s when she was 12 years old. I would not want to be the substitute teacher tomorrow morning. His family is leaving. She loves binge-watching and can spend hours talking about movies and TV shows. #470 IMO the way the women looked going to that church was a big problem that no one addressed. My sources (multiple) are accurate. Had not thought of that. Its as if he could never do any wrong. The revelations come at a sensitive moment for Calvary's national network of about 1,800 churches, which have been riven by legal infighting and dogged by claims that bad pastors have been allowed to run amok. November 14, 2017 What is interesting to me is how little difference of opinion there is. I forgive him and i still love him. And you can prove it. They didnt have to. [2] We are all sinners, we are taught to forgive, and I forgive you. MLD, we are listening to the apostles. There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. (Romans 8:1 ESV). I hadnt heard of any in my 30 years attending CC starting with CCCM in 1976 when I came to Christ. The inner circle or big givers got to have dinner with DC and BC. Barbara, well done. Do you worship Jesus as God incarnate, The Lord, The Creator, The Giver of Life? Its pretty common knowledge. So, that right I have no sympathy especially for what may be coming Bob Coys way. The sin that I spoke about happened 24 years ago, but the hurt caused is still fresh in my heart. Jerry Falwell called Bakker a liar, an embezzler, a sexual deviant, and the greatest scab and cancer on the face of Christianity in 2,000 years of church history, In 1988, Falwell said that the Bakker scandal had strengthened broadcast evangelism and made Christianity stronger, more mature and more committed.. I got tired of responding to the nonsense. Look up all the scenes with thrones and Gods people gathered around and determine if it is on earth or in heaven. Were total screw-ups, we readily admit it, but youre a damn fool to try to get a read on Jesus Christ from any of us. He teaches clearly that one can take the Mark of the beast and still be redeemed. You are stalling. Sounds like from John 8 that Jesus sure had sympathy for the adulterer. They chose to ignore the explosion that created and run all their services as normal anyway. is it possible you source could be wrong. Looks like the night shift worked some OT last night.. PS He always said that he didnt want to turn anyone away. Become a member to support the independent voice of South Florida Wow I did not know there were so many perfect people in the world. Michael, you know that this thread is going to deteriorate. I regards to where to go to church Yours is a very special and personal relationship with God and you are blessed with so many choices in this area. Indeed, police records show no progress on the case until eight months later, on April 4, 2016, when Coy's young accuser showed up at Coral Springs Police headquarters. Is it true that women paid money to deny the commandment inI Timothy about women placing a priority on the cultivation of inward character over outward adornment by having high price spa and hair days? There is little doubt that the makers intended for us to be concerned. You should not trouble yourself with this man. We are told 20,000 attend the church. If you believe the preterist Calvinist view Ive got a bridge in San Francisco I can sell you! Listen to my advise forget what others are doing if you are having issues with porn, just stop it. #805 yeah considering that all of MIchaels info is inaccurate. God bless you all. Thats getting copied and pasted and saved to be used a lot in the future . I learned to trust God to receive the meat of His word and to spit out the bones of mans opinion. Not only has she been publicly shamed, in front of her friends, family and all whom she held dear, but she has been shamed by a husband who found her lacking and inadequate. What did we get when we were lied about, shunned by others who were too loyal to even ask what happened to us and raked over the hot coals by him and his leadership? You give yourself a severe disadvantage by doing so, whenever you are discussing doctrine with someone. Bad choices can entrap us, but with God we can hope for healing in this situation. YES and his congregation knows and it was handled perfectly. Willingness to do whatever the board and congregation require is step four. His congregation will continue to thrive and fight the good fight of faith. I dont always agree with his point of view and we have had a few discussions to that end. Jean- Yes it went on because I knew a couple that had dinner with BC and wife with only a few other couples. Weve had too much of that here lately and it hurts us all. How you define orthodoxy isnt the final word on the matter, is it? This place has a gifting for helping saints deal with things like you are going thru. To Michael (#646), It isnt the case that the MLK crime scene was unprotected. Sometimes theres love and we become lovers for a time and sometimes its just sex for fun and enjoyment, so face the facts men by nature are not monogamous! 7. In a piece about the Iraq War, he called Saddam Hussein a "rabid dog" and wrote that "we cannot simply sit idly by and let evil happen." I have read SO MANY comments from Bob Coy followers that said, Bob always said to us, If you trust in me, I will let you down. Sheesh. Daughter, We live in Coral Springs and have attended some of the more conservative churches in the area Reformed Baptist, Anabaptist and a John Macarthur affiliated church. Anonymous I know what youre speaking about there was defiantly is a we know better attitude through the church as is with any structured environment but I on at least (3) occasions took Bob to task on issues I questioned and each time he heard and reasoned with me, one time conceded, one time there was a healing between two churches and one time we agreed I was taking a bit too much license and should stay on the set point to which I conceded. That was their choice, not mine. I remember when and Bob Coy with Pastor Mark Davis called me to confront me on my infidelity. And I did ask Andy and others if they could make a connection between Isaiah and the millennium? Leaders who fall into sexual sin are generally never the same once the sin exposed, even when repentance and remorse is demonstrated. If the doctrine was a 9 and you are Spirit filled then find a like minded church that teaches sound doctrine and stay away from reformed theology and Calvinism which contradicts the word of God, your going there will be like putting new wine into old wine skins! How was this non bodied being bound with a chain? Coy has never been criminally charged, and if there were other cases of sexual harassment or abuse in the decades he ran Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale, neither the church nor cops have revealed them. He claims his record as pastor at Calvary Chapel was unblemished by sexual harassment or molestation claims. While you are rejoicing in the fall of another you should do your home work and renounce you idol worship of your anti-Jewish god Luther, along with the gracious burn them at the stake unrepented Calvin.
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