Better safe than splattered.> > At least one traditional legend we have (as of now) been told is false:> several people in episodes have said that leprechauns do not exist. [13] In 2021, she appeared in a limited engagement of Mornings at Seven at Broadway's Theatre at St. > In article , Tim McGaughy> wrote:>>in article 130620022021411075%dsa@synapse.net, Don Sample at>>dsa@synapse.net wrote on 6/13/02 7:24 PM:>>> We see Cain making his own bullets, but nothing is said about what>>> they were made of.>>>>And why would he make his own bullets, then?>>>>> And even if they were silver, maybe he just had a Lone Ranger complex.>>>>Or perhaps, just perhaps, he knew about the legends that werewolves can>>only be killed by a silver bullet.> > That doesn't mean that the legends are true. [2], In a final confrontation between Angel and Lindsey, the two buried the hatchet, and Lindsey warned him of the games Wolfram & Hart was trying to play. She also had a leading role in the 1987 film House of Games, which was directed by her then-husband David Mamet. In "The Freshman", antagonist Sunday was originally going to be a Slayer who had been turned into a vampire, explaining how she was able to nearly effortlessly defeat Buffy the first time they fought.Instead, she simply became an unusually savvy and powerful vampire. Failing in that, he gave information about Angel to police officer Kate Lockley, whose father had been recently killed by vampires, putting her in a vendetta against Angel. Maggie was supposed to be the season's Big Bad.> Maggie was supposed to drive a wedge between Buffy and Riley. But just as he said this, Angel entered the conference they were having where Lindsay introduce him to Wolfram & Hart and telling him that Angel could not touch Winters. [18] Their marriage produced two daughters, Willa and Zosia Mamet. Smart guy! Usually, Xander would become jealous of Buffy's other male connections, but he seemed to show respect towards Riley. That's because as with most female athletes, no matter how good she got, those things. Werewolves and silver bullets could be another false thing. I couldn't let that slide.Lindsey McDonald, Two years later, Lindsey finally returned to Los Angeles, when he learned that Angel has taken over the Los Angeles division of Wolfram & Hart. If you've been paying any attention to running news (or just big headlines in general) then you are already familiar with Lindsay's work. Home of the Daily and Sunday Express. > in article 130620022021411075%dsa@synapse.net, Don Sample at> dsa@synapse.net wrote on 6/13/02 7:24 PM:> > > In article <21ced21e.0206@posting.google.com>, Sam> > wrote:> >. I figured it was just her and her grad students, capturing vampires and locking them up in the basements of the university, performing experiments that they couldn't perform on humans. Have your Hicks spayed or neutered. [citationneeded], Lindsey and Eve contrive a situation where Spike saves Angel from a demonic parasite (placed on an unconscious Angel by Eve), which simultaneously disheartened Angel, galvanized Spike, and adds weight and veracity to the claims made by "Doyle"/Lindsey. Personally I thinkASH's departure this season was even more devastating. Buffy: How old was Sarah Michelle Gellar in Buffy The Vampire Slayer? Vampires were more primeval and didn't get emotionally involved withpeople or other vampires for that matter, There are more differences but I have forgotten the rest :-). From what I've heard it was between Crouse's agent and ME; specifically money $$$. Maggie Walsh was supposed to be a, > > motherly type to Riley. Apparently Adam was originally supposed to be a good guy, but when Lindsay. Sleeper--'It's a library; only the stupid and the evil are afraid of those.' Any more word on this? Buffyverse Wiki is a FANDOM TV Community. Whether or not Buffyverse werewolves have any sort of fast healing hasnever been established. Crouse has also guest-starred on Alias, CSI: Crime Scene Investigation, Columbo, Criminal Minds, Law & Order, ER, Millennium, and NYPD Blue. In fact, while, under the assumption that she'd left the show early, I used to think that that reanimated corpse prof Walsh (in Primeval) was just an extra in prosthetics, it turns out that it was actually herself (Crouse) coming back to the show as planned all along. It makes no sense to me. You don't AngelLindsey's last words, Lindsey and Angel allied once more in an effort to stop the Circle. Prior to having his powers stripped from him by Angel's team, he displayed the following powers. However, he did return for an episode in the sixth season, where he returned and revealed he had married someone else. Buffy Phenomenon A New Man (4.12) all too well - persaphones - The Sound of Music - Rodgers . I really do believe that." Why did Buffy go to LA in season 4? Adam may be ridiculous, but is also a fun and fitting Big Bad. Her interest was given a menacing quality in "Gingerbread" when we first see Willow and Amy performing a magic ritual. While> Oz would have remained Willows love interest, I don't think we would> have seen Buffy crying in Oz's lap in "Dead Things" for instance. I doubt it. Marc Blucas: The actor's first big role was in Buffy, Marc Blucas: Marc Blucas played Riley Finn. [2][3] Lindsay Ann Crouse's full name is an intentional tribute to the Broadway writing partnership of Lindsay and Crouse, which consisted of her father and his writing partner, Howard Lindsay. "[21], "Lindsay Crouse keeps up a Family Stage Tradition. ", Angel Investigations and Team Angel allies, Angel Investigations and Team Angel enemies, Lindsey is the only character besides Angel himself to appear in the first (", Though Christian Kane is a guitar player as well as a singer, it is his. Great actresses like Glenn Close and Susan Sarandonthere's nothing written for anyone over a certain age. She has a vision of what she wants to do. I'm not sure I'd have been desperately interested in the Maggie/Rileyrelationship. > >> Though Cain, the werewolf hunter, did make a point of using silver> >> bullets> > > > We see Cain making his own bullets, but nothing is said about what they> > were made of.> > And why would he make his own bullets, then? In 1999, he worked with vampiric businessman Russell Winters, a client that because of Lindsey's and his firm's services, could feed on young women without alerting attention. Touched by an Angel. To me she was always a secondarycharacter, I liked the character and the actress, but the death just didn'ttouch me. I was really creeped out when he reanimated the corpses of Walsh and the other doctor. Walsh appears in the penultimate episode of Season Four, "Primeval," as a zombie, working under Adam along with others Adam has killed. Is it true that Maggie Walsh was the original planned season 4 Big Bad? Lindsey was one of six children, two of whom died of the flu. Writing and acting. The character is portrayed by Lindsay Crouse. He also became the love interest of the titular character, Buffy Summers (Sarah Michelle Gellar), and they were in a long term relationship. I've seen other > published interviews that say Lindsay Crouse was disappointed to learn > her character was destind to die halfway through the season-- i.e. Lindsay> > Crouse was signed for the whole season.> >. Starting in the mailroom, he quickly worked his way up, becoming one of Wolfram & Hart's most valued lawyers. The set up for the final battle between Buffy and Adam occured in episode 14. This would at least have given Riley some character otherthan soldier boy. you never know, they could have bonded over him seeing her nude. )>> >> Though Cain, the werewolf hunter, did make a point of using silver bullets> > We see Cain making his own bullets, but nothing is said about what they> were made of. Certainly Tara's role would have been quite different,or maybe there wouldn't have been a Tara at all. ", Another fan said: "Always loved Riley (re-watching Buffy just now) and it turns out the actor is as sincere and lovable as the character he played. She did my head in so im glad that she didnt keep going. He talks about similar issues with Donald Sutherland & Glenn Quinn. Professor Maggie Walsh is introduced in Season Four, as Buffy's Psychology professor at the University of California, Sunnydale, but is later revealed as the leader of the government-controlled Initiative, a military project intent on capturing, studying, and modifying the behavior of various demons. Crouse's film career began in 1976, with small roles in television and theatrical movies. Lindsey insisted to Lorne that he had changed, offering to sing for him so Lorne might read his future. [2], Lorne set him and Angel on the path that would end with the two working together to discover a Wolfram & Hart facility that specialized in unwilling transplant donors. Upon discovering this, Lindsey sent several top private investigators to find out who the intruder was. The two agreed to fight the upcoming battle together and, at the end, resolve their differences, maybe even allowing Lindsey to take a powerful position at Wolfram & Hart as "the devil [they knew]. And so, damn it, I'm going to drink the rest of that water. Wesley, unhappy with being forced to serve the Partners, shot those possibilities down, saying the presence of either alongside Angel would not help the Senior Partners get what they wanted, as the vampire would at worst ignore them and kill them at best. She was striving so hard to understand what life was about. and our She's probably a mix of those two. As near as I can tell, there really are no "traditional" standards for vampires, at least if by that you mean "going back into actual myths and legends." I like her caustic nature, because she's not a mean person. [citationneeded], Though rivals at heart, Lindsey and Lilah were also forced to also work together. Learning that Angel planned to expose the truth, they hired an old demon enemy of his to kill him. Sunnydale in further> > episodes before it was all revealed to us.> > --. (Actually, in _Wild at Heart_ Oz still hasscratches from his first encounter with Veruca several hours later, sohe can't heal too fast. The vampires in Buffy don't exactly conform to traditional> standards. Lindsay Crouse - a Best Supporting Actress Oscar nominee in 1985 for Places in the Heart - is a compelling presence as Dr Joan Allenby, a wronged woman who lives out a revenge fantasy after witnessing her lover cheating on her with a young colleague. Too bad. Two men enter, one man leaves!" And when he came back I realized that I really missed Riley.". "A Master in the Art of the Con. She's rung down the curtain and joined the choir invisible. It was> > Maggie who was supposed to tell Riley about Angel to humiliate Buffy in> > front of everyone at the Initiative. After Riley learns that Buffy is the Slayer, they inform Walsh of her role. Ms. Crouse is a senior . Lindsey and Eve. At some point, he began a relationship with Eve, the Liaison to the Senior Partners. bah. Vampires could shapeshift into bats, wolfs and even smoke4. Not that I want to see Oz shot or anythingbutit would have had more impact. One their schemes involved organizing a charity event with Anne Steele, operator of the East Hills Teen Center, to improved Wolfram & Hart's image and secretly steal the donations. the exact opposite of this paragraph. The fleur-de-lis bracelet that Lindsey wears throughout his time on the show is actually a bracelet that Christian Kane wears to remind him of his mother who is from New Orleans. [citationneeded], Lindsey legally represented many vampires and demons, as well as evil humans. Meet Lindsay Crouse. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. See Lindsay Crouse full list of movies and tv shows from their career. (Unless someone tells them to, but thatwould just be silly and pointless. A person I would really like to know!". Crouse has appeared in featured and guest roles in a number of television series. "Look at my generation. and Radcliffe College in 1970,[5] Crouse began her performing career as a modern and jazz dancer, but she soon switched to acting and made her Broadway debut in Much Ado About Nothing in 1972. I loved Eliza Dushku, but she got a greatending on Angel so I don't mind her absence. 1 Second Lead, Breaks for Starlight", "Actress brings third annual Buddhist retreat to Rockport. Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Lots of people make their own bullets. Lindsay Crouse had more fun playing a zombie than playing Prof. Walsh. I liked Adam as a Big Bad though, because as well as being scary to look at it and wicked strong, it wasn't like he was actually Evil; he was just the creation of someone else's mind. . Fans struggled to connect with Riley when he was first introduced to the show, as he was seen as just another of Buffy's romances. [11], Crouse appeared in Lee Blessing's Going to St. Ives with the Gloucester Stage Company during the summer of 2008[12] and provided the narration for Virginia Lee Burton: A Sense of Place, a documentary film about Virginia Lee Burton. I'm not sure, but for the way her arc progresses and then suddenly stops, it seems to me like there must have been more to the backstage story. His rifle didn't look like it had been bought in K-Mart. Or that > > lets face it. A flunky?! Maggie was supposed to be the season's Big Bad.> > Maggie was supposed to drive a wedge between Buffy and Riley. I know in a lot of the *old* werewolf stories, youdidn't need silver to kill one, but after all these bleedin' movies got theissue confused, if *I* were hunting one, I don't think I'd gamble on whetherthey were wrong! "[10] In 2007, Crouse opened a revival of The Belle of Amherst, a one-woman show about the life of poet Emily Dickinson, at the Gloucester Stage in Gloucester, Massachusetts. Lorne remarked he had heard him sing and shot Lindsey twice in the chest with a silenced pistol. There were other indications that an unknown force was at work in and around U.C. [9], After Angel violently burnt Darla and Drusilla, Lindsay, still infatuated with Darla, let her recuperate at his apartment. She> > said the Initiative storyline was something that they pulled out of, > > their hats at the last minute. Maybe it useda wierd calibre bullet. [17], Lindsey later revealed the existence of the Circle of the Black Thorn, the Senior Partners' instrument on this plane, a secret society devoted to maintaining man's inhumanity in exchange for power. > In article <21ced21e.0206@posting.google.com>, Sam> wrote:> >> Don Sample wrote in message>> news:<130620021341170604%dsa@synapse.net>>>> In article <1b3O8.7195$Ok1.4@news2.west.cox.net>, Daniel Silverman>>> wrote:>>> >>>> Oz is a werewolf>>>> From watching Wolf Lake, turning into a werewolf after being accelerates>>>> the>>>> healing process>>>> >>>> I doubt Oz would die from a bullet IMHO, unless he was shot in the head or>>>> something>>>> >>>> Daniel Silverman>>> >>> Whether or not Buffyverse werewolves have any sort of fast healing has>>> never been established. Both Seth Green and Lindsay Crouse bailing in the same season meant theyhad to scramble. There are just as many other werewolf stories out there that portray them as being normal humans when not in wolf form who can be killed just like any other person can be. Gellar has stated she believes Whedon's original intention was "was to put Xander and Buffy together. http://gsoft.smu.edu/ScriptCrypt/crypt.html|same, kgoodnig-4DDDD9@newssvr11-ext.news.prodigy.com, 4E34B160CCD511AC.5999A36C@lp.airnews.net. Even our quantum physics validate[s] ideas the Buddha taught 2,500 years ago. He had also been betrayed by his boss, Professor Walsh (Lindsay Crouse) who had been in charge of the initiative but had been lying about an attempt to kill his girlfriend, Buffy. One of the biggest last minute changes that affected Buffy was Seth Green leaving early in production of season four. This is the first time I've ever heard this. I've been expecting Tara to leave orbe off the show for awhile, so her dying (Even though she's not REALLYgoneright? Or it could be that the Watcher's Guide is a fluff piece and that's really how it happened. Claiming to receive visions from the Powers That Be, he gained Spike's cooperation and trust. 1999 . I do wish I was a little more seasoned and mature at the time to realise how good it was. [EXPLAINER]. The two had met during the production on Slap Shot. More info. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. There were indications that the Initiative existed from the first episode. Maggie was supposed to be the season's Big Bad.Maggie was supposed to drive a wedge between Buffy and Riley. Whedon discussed with Nicholas Brendon and Sarah Michelle Gellar the idea of Buffy and Xander ending up together at the end of the final season, which the actors reportedly agreed. It has something to offer everyone at all levels Buddhism is dynamic and has captured the interests of Americans. I thought the character came into her own in season five and blossomed as the moral core of Buffy's gang this year. They were thinking in terms of family,so Adam as "brother" probably seemed a better option. The loss of Marc Blucas was a blessing! ", "For Mamet and Crouse, A Movie is a Family Affair. But Crouse said this to Rafelson, who called Mamet; when the director asked why he should hire him for the screenplay, Mamet replied, "Because I'll give you a good screenplay or a sincere apology." "[3], Crouse gave some insight into her view on her character, "She's such an extremist. Maggie Walsh was supposed to be a> motherly type to Riley. I remember when I was a kid, I read a lot of vampire comics. Now a Giles/Maggie struggleover Buffy's soul could have been fascinating but a Buffy/Maggie struggleover Riley? *shudder*. [citationneeded], You kill me? Also, a rather different story since the focuswould have been on that personal aspect as well as thepolitical/military one. Maggie Walsh was supposed to be a> > motherly type to Riley. The vampires in Buffy don't exactly conform to traditionalstandards. Big Bang Theory plot hole: Who is Eliza Dushku? It was> Maggie who was supposed to tell Riley about Angel to humiliate Buffy in> front of everyone at the Initiative. Lindsay Crouse wanted out of her contract so she was killed off. Per the outlet, "Angel . This is something that has always been interesting to me everytime I watch season 4. Seth Green's loss wasdefinitely felt. In my opinion, she was more of an appendage then a self-standing character when she was first introduced. reasons and the Big Bad arc had to be redesigned around Adam. This then forced Lindsey to use an artificial hand from then on. The pair fought on a rising container that held the creature, while Cordelia tried to stop the process. I'm talking dirt poor, no shoes, no toilet, six of us kids in a room and come flu season that went down to four. ", Lindsay Crouse brings third annual Buddhist retreat to Rockport, Lindsay Crouse Summer Retreat in Massachusetts web site, Lindsay Crouse's Buddhist Teachings posted online at ACI-LA, Lindsay Crouse's additional Buddhist teachings posted online, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lindsay_Crouse&oldid=1133361838, Episode: "Rebecca McManus and Steve Arnold", Episode: "I've Got Batman in My Basement", Episodes: "Captain Kangaroo Court", "A Liver Runs Through It", Episodes: "Ted and Carey's Bogus Adventure", "Alice Doesn't Fit Here Anymore", Episodes: "Forgive, But Don't Forget", "Black Eye", "Sinners and Saints", "All Others Pay Cash", This page was last edited on 13 January 2023, at 11:35. [citationneeded]. Walsh initially thinks that Buffy can be a useful ally to the Initiative, but soon takes a dislike to her unpredictability and unwelcome curiosity, especially with regards to the "314 Project". You must log in or register to reply here. After David Boreanaz left "Buffy the Vampire Slayer," he went on to star as the eponymous antihero of the spin-off show "Angel," according to Screen Rant. Lindsay> > Crouse was signed for the whole season.> >> > Both Seth Green and Lindsay Crouse bailing in the same season meant they> > had to scramble. Riley later found out his boss had implanted a behaviour modifier into him after he joined the initiative, and it caused him to experience strange feelings. I think she feels she's in direct competition with Buffy. Better safe than splattered. So, the story I *thought* I knew was that Prof Walsh was the planned Big Bad for the season, but then Crouse departed the show early for (?) She tried to create a monster to help her plans and they just turned around and stabbed her through the stomach!!! ", Fans continue to admire the actor and his role, with one commenting: "Marc seems to be one of the most intelligent and down to earth actors with an ego in its proper place. Before Angel left, Lindsey had the encounter digitally recorded and alerted the police. After huge amounts of fan speculation on the idea, a vampirised Slayer finally did appear in the "Season Nine" comics. LindsayCrouse was signed for the whole season. > > > then we went, ehhh, forget it. Buffy reboot cast: Which Buffy the Vampire Slayer cast will return? The trailblazing basketball player died last month at age 66. Lindsey was eager to have Angel sire Darla, thus saving her. Crouse's essay has now racked up more than 3 million page views. I doubt Oz would die from a bullet IMHO, unless he was shot in the head orsomething > > > That might have been the net result, but you would have to admit the> road travel to get to that point would have been much different. Leaving Angel briefly to get his stake, Angel in that time recovered and turned the tables on Lindsey. When he did, Lindsay discovered the man slaughter was a hoax to get Darla to Angel and hopefully take his soul. It's easy to kill offrecurring character's, it's tougher to kill off contract regulars. the middle of season 7 I wouldn't mind that one bit. lets face it. An understanding that Willow found inconvenient as she used magic to empower her and increase her standing with Buffy. > (Yeah, right, like I could tell if it was definitive based on a> Usenet posting). In 2005, she organized an annual Buddhist educational program, originally held at the Windhover Center for the Performing Arts in Rockport, Massachusetts,[19] and then in 2010 moved to The Governor's Academy in Byfield, Massachusetts. She was just in the way of his goal and so she had to be eliminated- and I think that cold, emotionless demon is always more unnerving than any other. [16], Lindsey was incarcerated in a Holding Dimension that emulated suburbia, complete with a wife and a son. As it was, it came off entirely as a"question authority" piece. Willow was headed down that path anyway and Tara was a fellow traveller. While it is true that the affinity began as a result of a common interest in magic, Willow was always portrayed as the more dominant partner. ", "The Summer Retreat with Ven. If he was making silver> bullets, it might be on a "Pascal's Wager" basis: if the legend IS true,> then using lead bullets is a way for him to get very quickly and very> messily dead. [6], When Darla was returned to life as a human, Lindsey became attached to her, struggling with CDs to play her music at his office and helping her mess with Angel's mind; he provided Darla with a fake identity and hired actor to play her husband to frame Angel for murdering him. He might have requirements(other than material) that aren't easily met with store bought bullets. Angel then hurled Winters out of the window of the tall building they were in, into the sunlight where he was burnt to dust. (Actually, in _Wild at Heart_ Oz still has>>> scratches from his first encounter with Veruca several hours later, so>>> he can't heal too fast. It wasMaggie who was supposed to tell Riley about Angel to humiliate Buffy infront of everyone at the Initiative. He has also previously starred in Necessary Roughness and Underground, and fans may be interested to hear he used to be a college basketball player. What was her plan? In fact, while, under the assumption that she'd left the show early, I used to think that that reanimated corpse prof Walsh (in Primeval) was just an extra in prosthetics, it turns out that it was actually herself (Crouse) coming back to the show as planned all along. This also explains why they didn't think to ring in some othermilitary type as the big bad. The person in charge was Maggie Walsh who was also Buffy's professor. For her role in the 1984 film Places in the Heart, she received an Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actress. The three hired then-renegade Slayer Faith to assassinate him, promising to free her from her police charges and a doubled amount of payment. "[4], Crouse outlined her view of Maggie's relationships with Riley and Buffy, "Her teaching assistant Riley is really the child she never had, and there's probably confusion there that he's a potential something for her that's slightly out of her reach, but she's willing to prevent anyone else from being interested in him. [citation needed] She received her acting training at HB Studio[7] in New York City. the > exact opposite of this paragraph.> > Does anybody have definitive info?> > (Yeah, right, like I could tell if it was definitive based on a > Usenet posting). Lindsay Crouse is Indian by birth. [2] This may include adverts from us and 3rd parties based on our understanding. I don't want to sound like a jerk or attack ME and Joss or anything but is it standard practice to let actors with contracts just walk anytime they feel like it? Yes> I was that sad :-) and in those there were certain facts that don't appear> in Buffy>. Apparently Adam wasoriginally supposed to be a good guy, but when Lindsay Crouse wanted outof her contract they had to scramble to find a new Big Bad. I still don'tthink he was; he was a fellow victim and should never have been playedas a big bad. And ya know what, if Michelle Trachtenbergleft in the middle of season 7 I wouldn't mind that one bit. As opposed to just sort of misguided."[6]. [1] Despite being one of the brightest of Wolfram & Hart, Lindsey secretly harbored a great deal of distrust for the organization and his colleagues, particularly Lilah. Maggie was supposed to be the season's Big Bad.> > Maggie was supposed to drive a wedge between Buffy and Riley. For her role in the 1984 film Places in the Heart, she received an Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actress. Together, Lindsey and Eve manipulate events so that Spike, not Angel, proves (or at least appears to the Senior Partners) to be the ensouled vampire foretold in the Scrolls of Aberjian, the one who will have a crucial impact in the Apocalypse and fulfill the Shanshu Prophecy.Lindsey hopes that once the Senior Partners realize the folly of attempting to seduce Angel to their .
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